Comments on: Statement regarding “Christian” Bands https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/ Daily Wisdom for Youth Workers. Fri, 02 May 2014 03:49:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Doug Espie https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287845 Fri, 02 May 2014 03:49:45 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287845 I think we need to look at Switchfoot’s comments and indeed all comments through this simple yet profound Bible verse:
So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.1Co 10:31

How does Switchfoot glorify God in their music? How does the Christian who is a baker glorify God?

Specfically, how does the Christian band or the Christian baker glorify God in their work in a way that an unbeliever cannot?
If there is no readily discernable difference between a Christian and a Non-Christian baker…then is the Christian who is a baker truly obeying 1 Cor 10:31?
I think these questions need to be wrestled through…

]]> By: Doug Espie https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287853 Fri, 02 May 2014 03:49:45 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287853 I think we need to look at Switchfoot’s comments and indeed all comments through this simple yet profound Bible verse:
So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.1Co 10:31

How does Switchfoot glorify God in their music? How does the Christian who is a baker glorify God?

Specfically, how does the Christian band or the Christian baker glorify God in their work in a way that an unbeliever cannot?
If there is no readily discernable difference between a Christian and a Non-Christian baker…then is the Christian who is a baker truly obeying 1 Cor 10:31?
I think these questions need to be wrestled through…

]]> By: Sam https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287844 Thu, 01 May 2014 17:09:58 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287844 I appreciate the comments from Jon. I think what people want to know when they ask a question like that is “Jon, are you still following Jesus? Are you still trying to glorify God through your music?”. I think the term “Christian music” has been generally unhelpful as Jon points out, however, I don’t believe many people are really asking if his music has received Christ as its personal savior. That leads to the question: Is it valid to ask someone if they are still following Jesus. My short answer – yes. Obviously someone out there will say would you ever ask that of a baker? Maybe, and I don’t think it would be wrong either, however, a baker likely doesn’t have the sphere of influence that Switchfoot has. Sound unfair? With great power comes great responsibility (I think it says that in the Bible somewhere, or maybe it was Spiderman – whatever)

]]> By: Sam https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287852 Thu, 01 May 2014 17:09:58 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287852 I appreciate the comments from Jon. I think what people want to know when they ask a question like that is “Jon, are you still following Jesus? Are you still trying to glorify God through your music?”. I think the term “Christian music” has been generally unhelpful as Jon points out, however, I don’t believe many people are really asking if his music has received Christ as its personal savior. That leads to the question: Is it valid to ask someone if they are still following Jesus. My short answer – yes. Obviously someone out there will say would you ever ask that of a baker? Maybe, and I don’t think it would be wrong either, however, a baker likely doesn’t have the sphere of influence that Switchfoot has. Sound unfair? With great power comes great responsibility (I think it says that in the Bible somewhere, or maybe it was Spiderman – whatever)

]]> By: JordanJee https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287843 Thu, 01 May 2014 16:51:19 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287843 Man, well said. I don’t want to say too much more than that. It’s similar to the words I heard from another “christian artist” recently. He asked something to the effect of, “would you call a christian who bakes a Christian baker?” and things of the like. I agree. I’ve been waiting for someone to say something like this, not realizing that I have. Break down the barriers of our culture and start living freely in the Gospel of Christ.

]]> By: JordanJee https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287851 Thu, 01 May 2014 16:51:19 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287851 Man, well said. I don’t want to say too much more than that. It’s similar to the words I heard from another “christian artist” recently. He asked something to the effect of, “would you call a christian who bakes a Christian baker?” and things of the like. I agree. I’ve been waiting for someone to say something like this, not realizing that I have. Break down the barriers of our culture and start living freely in the Gospel of Christ.

]]> By: Chris Troxel https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287842 Thu, 01 May 2014 16:09:58 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287842 Luther on Vocation

]]> By: Chris Troxel https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287850 Thu, 01 May 2014 16:09:58 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287850 Luther on Vocation

]]> By: Joel Rutherford https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287841 Thu, 01 May 2014 15:03:32 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287841 In so many areas of the Body of Christ, it’s been implied and even stated plainly, ‘if you’re really spiritual, then you’ll only listen to Christian music (‘like ME’ implies the speaker)’.
That implication presents such a facade of what it means to be a Christian. It substitutes works for grace. It puts ‘obedience’ about what music we listen to (!!?!?!) ahead of obedience in areas that might really make a difference in the Kingdom.
Jon Foreman is spot on with his statement.

]]> By: Joel Rutherford https://youthministry.com/statement-regarding-christian-bands/#comment-287849 Thu, 01 May 2014 15:03:32 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=41696#comment-287849 In so many areas of the Body of Christ, it’s been implied and even stated plainly, ‘if you’re really spiritual, then you’ll only listen to Christian music (‘like ME’ implies the speaker)’.
That implication presents such a facade of what it means to be a Christian. It substitutes works for grace. It puts ‘obedience’ about what music we listen to (!!?!?!) ahead of obedience in areas that might really make a difference in the Kingdom.
Jon Foreman is spot on with his statement.

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