Comments on: [Jesus-centered] In Pursuit of Lesser Gods https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/ Daily Wisdom for Youth Workers. Thu, 01 Sep 2016 21:28:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Rick Lawrence https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292324 Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:38:17 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292324 In reply to Josh Kelly.

Thanks Josh!
Grace,
Rick

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By: Josh Kelly https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292323 Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:35:25 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292323 Nailed it! Nice post.

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By: Rick Lawrence https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292322 Tue, 24 Dec 2013 00:04:36 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292322 In reply to Mark Siebert.

Mark, thanks so much for weighing in on this… If you come off slightly radical, it must be (to use Kyle Idleman’s phrase) you’re “not a fan” of Jesus because you’re a whole lot more than that…
Grace,
Rick

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By: Mark Siebert https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292321 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:59:56 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292321 Thanks Rick!

Redefining love – many of us demonstrate difficulty in understanding discipline as love or passionate zeal for the Lord as love. There is an expectation that to be a good Christian will not cause trouble or cause harm to us. The false gospel of comfort and self-sufficiency and tolerance seems great to many until tragedy exposes it for the imposter it is: a hollow, weak, unsatisfying, and insufficient shell of misguided ideals that sounded like Christianity. I pray for our youth, children and all the rest of us that we would love like Christ loved and not be deceived and deluded in this way.

I’d apologize for sounding slightly radical, but that would be totally proving the point.

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By: Michael Huss https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292320 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:36:11 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292320 Rick,

Let me start with a disqualifier, I’m not a ministry professional, I am not a Bible Scholar, and I have had a very tumultuous faith journey to say the least. But I’m where I need to be now, solid in my faith and my relationship with God.

I read your blog because I have a teenage daughter (and soon to be teenage son) that I try hard to not only understand at times, but to equip to deal with today’s world while maintaining their faith and morals. I always gain insight and advice from your blog and other articles I wouldn’t get to without your help. I can’t thank you enough for that.

I’ve just started my second reading of Thom and Joani Shultz’s book “Why Nobody Wants To Go To Church Anymore.” As I read your blog this morning, a clear note was struck in my understanding of what Thom and Joani observed and suggested as solutions to the crisis in the church today. We (as a faith community in general) treat Jesus as a history lesson, not a current events lesson. We talk about the historical Jesus in church and Bible studies, not the Jesus of TODAY who was there with me when I had a car accident I shouldn’t have walked away from. The Jesus of TODAY who inspires people to help the homeless and poor in His name daily, and so many more examples of His hand guiding others to do Christ-like things. Without recognizing His hand at work, there is a vacuum for many which is were the “lesser gods” get their “air time” and “worship” as you observed in today’s blog. At least, that’s my view from the pew.

In Matthew 25: 34-40 as Jesus explained to a confused flock:

37… these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? 39 When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’

40 “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters,[c] you were doing it to me!’

I think so many people struggle with seeing Jesus in the current day-not just as a history lesson on Sunday and Wednesday nights. When they don’t recognize the work of Jesus as His work, they focus their adoration on whomever is here in the now doing what they see as “good,” and miss the opportunity to worship the divine hand that inspires, guides and glorifies what has been done because of Him.

Mother Teresa did amazing things BECAUSE she knew Jesus and dedicated her life to being like Him. She would be appalled to think anyone was worshipping her.

Nelson Mandela was raised a Christian, and he embraced his beliefs fully as he changed while in prison, of that there is not doubt. He left his hate and propensity for violence behind to help heal deep wounds created over years of harsh treatment and inequality. In a very Christ-like manner, Mandela forgave those who imprisoned him, and showed what was possible with an open heart.

Neither Mother Teresa or Nelson Mandela portrayed themselves as a god, and I have to believe if there are people who do “worship” them as you suggest, then they are worshipping the Christ-like lives they both strove to live. I just don’t think people truly realize what they are drawn to is Jesus working through us to change the world TODAY.

I’ll take it one step further and say, in my opinion, the challenge of the waning church attendance is that the faith community doesn’t have the opportunity to equip many, many people in the modern world to recognize when they see God’s hand at work because they don’t go to church. It’s a perpetual downward spiral. People don’t recognize when they see God at work, therefore they don’t see a reason to go to church. When they don’t go to church, their children don’t go to church, and they never learn to see God at work. The pattern hasn’t changed for quite some time.

That lack of opportunity to develop the skill to see “God moments” is why they falter in where to place their faith. They are drawn to, and the Divine, but don’t know “Who” Jesus is. How can you not be drawn to Jesus once you know Him? If people don’t know it’s Jesus’s hand at work, but they know in their hearts it’s right, I believe they fill the void with whomever is acting “Christ-like” at that moment not knowing the difference between the Divine, and the Divinely inspired. And that is when people get put into the “lesser gods” category. In the absence of divinity (or the ability to recognize God’s hand at work in this case), people tend to fill the void with whomever is inspiring at the moment. We’re a culture of the “now” with no long-term collective memory.

Thom and Joani’s book talks about their Lifetree ministry and one of the four acts of love “Fearless Conversation.” It’s about the “now.” Our society is about today. Now. The near future. We have to find ways to help others see Jesus in the “now” if we are going to grow the church, and His Kingdom here on earth.

I know it took years for me to realize when I had been in a “God moment” and what a change in my life it was when I realized Jesus wasn’t simply a historical figure, He was present and walking with me in my life TODAY in a very real way. I kept looking for Jesus as he was in the Bible stories of my youth. I finally realized my stories are very different than those of the people Christ interacted with in the first century (While in a “disagreement” with a semi truck while in my Mustang, When I met my now wife and felt love unlike any I had felt before. In the hospital when my son was fighting to take his first breath. On my cell phone with a friend who’s world was crumbling down when I didn’t know what to say, and many more), but that’s because it’s a different time, a different culture. Christ is still here TODAY, we just have to find ways to help others see Him. I believe that starts with talking about Jesus’ presence NOW, not just what he did in the first century.

And maybe then we’ll recognize Jesus acting through people here on earth to help us all grow in our relationship with Him and preparing to meet Him when the time comes.

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By: Rick Lawrence https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292319 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:17:38 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292319 In reply to Ayo Garuba.

Ayo, thanks so much for sharing this with me. Grateful for your open heart…
Grace,
Rick

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By: Ayo Garuba https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292318 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:15:05 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292318 Great work sir, quite revealing and refreshing. I regularly get your newsletter and I can attes to the impact its making even in my life. Please keep the dlag flying

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By: Rick Lawrence https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292317 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:53:41 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292317 In reply to Jason.

Jason, thanks so much… I wonder what kind of list we could all compile if we used the “Jesus said and did” filter whenever we read the gospels—I think the momentum of this practice produces a level of worship we crave but only rarely experience….

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By: Jason https://youthministry.com/jesus-centered/#comment-292316 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:50:52 +0000 http://www.morethandodgeball.com/?p=39107#comment-292316 Wow. Great article, great list of observations from Matthew. Loved that!

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