Comments on: Three Lies And A Truth (About Making Disciples) https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/ Daily Wisdom for Youth Workers. Mon, 27 Nov 2023 16:06:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Leneita Fix https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/#comment-288676 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:36:59 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=43915#comment-288676 In reply to Lee.

Lee- I think you bring up such a great point about the balance in the relationship. When we look at it as one extreme of just hanging out or the other of a “project” then we miss the person either way. The key ultimately is loving people the way Jesus does. This is not a wishy washy love.

]]> By: Leneita Fix https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/#comment-288680 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:36:59 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=43915#comment-288680 In reply to Lee.

Lee- I think you bring up such a great point about the balance in the relationship. When we look at it as one extreme of just hanging out or the other of a “project” then we miss the person either way. The key ultimately is loving people the way Jesus does. This is not a wishy washy love.

]]> By: Lee https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/#comment-288675 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:18:05 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=43915#comment-288675 Good article on discipleship. I have been wrestling with your Truth #1 for a little while, but from a little bit of a different angle. I have realized I can see students as more of “projects” then people. I’m always thinking of the right question, the right angle to ask it, etc. instead of loving who they are. As a I look back I see a few students where ever time I met with them, which was fairly regularly I was always trying to push into them spiritually, which isn’t bad by any means, but I believe I could have cared about them as a person. As I think of people who have discipled me, whether intentionally or naturally through life, it was the ones who genuinely cared about me as a person. While our conversations did always go to spiritual matters, it did not always start like that. I’m sure as you know, it is a balance with intentionality and relationship. I wholeheartedly agree with your #1 point. Thanks again!

]]> By: Lee https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/#comment-288679 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:18:05 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=43915#comment-288679 Good article on discipleship. I have been wrestling with your Truth #1 for a little while, but from a little bit of a different angle. I have realized I can see students as more of “projects” then people. I’m always thinking of the right question, the right angle to ask it, etc. instead of loving who they are. As a I look back I see a few students where ever time I met with them, which was fairly regularly I was always trying to push into them spiritually, which isn’t bad by any means, but I believe I could have cared about them as a person. As I think of people who have discipled me, whether intentionally or naturally through life, it was the ones who genuinely cared about me as a person. While our conversations did always go to spiritual matters, it did not always start like that. I’m sure as you know, it is a balance with intentionality and relationship. I wholeheartedly agree with your #1 point. Thanks again!

]]> By: Kyle https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/#comment-288674 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 19:09:49 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=43915#comment-288674 Thanks for the post. We too rarely talk about exactly what discipleship should look like. I do have a few things I would contest you on, though.

1. Although I believe that it is important to be intentional in relationships, discipleship is highly relational. There needs to be a high value of both the relationship aspect and the challenge aspect. Its not one or the other – its both.

4. Not everyone can disciple. You have to be a disciple of Jesus yourself if you want to be a disciple. In fact, I stand firm that unless you are being discipled yourself in some way, you are not fit to be a disciple. That is to say, though, that anyone can be discipled.

]]> By: Kyle https://youthministry.com/three-lies-and-a-truth-about-discipleship/#comment-288678 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 19:09:49 +0000 http://youthmindev.wpengine.com/?p=43915#comment-288678 Thanks for the post. We too rarely talk about exactly what discipleship should look like. I do have a few things I would contest you on, though.

1. Although I believe that it is important to be intentional in relationships, discipleship is highly relational. There needs to be a high value of both the relationship aspect and the challenge aspect. Its not one or the other – its both.

4. Not everyone can disciple. You have to be a disciple of Jesus yourself if you want to be a disciple. In fact, I stand firm that unless you are being discipled yourself in some way, you are not fit to be a disciple. That is to say, though, that anyone can be discipled.

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